• Ross@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Ah yes, the Deck vs. Switch debate. One offers performance and affordability, the other offers nostalgia at premium prices. Choose your fighter: the powerhouse or the Pokémon tax.

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      Considering the Steam Deck can run just about every console game ever made up to PS2 gen (and a good amount made after), I’d say they have the Switch 2 beat on nostalgia.

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      7 days ago

      You can emulate almost any Nintendo game from before 2016 on a steamdeck. Just got to wait a few more years for the switch emulators to get efficient enough to run well on the steam deck!

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      I know I’m not the standard pokemon fan, but showdown still exists if you just like to battle. The in-game gameplay of pokemon has always been a little lackluster to me and I don’t like VGC/doubles.

      ROM hacks can be fun, and I have done some self imposed challenge runs. I can’t see myself finishing any of the Prof oak challenges I did without emu speedup.

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      I still have my GBC with pokemon yellow and a flash cart with (almost, missing the new ones) every GB and GBC rom in existence on it that supports save states, and can emulate many switch games on the deck iirc if I were somehow nostalgic for those, and in fact can emulate basically any nintendo game from history I may be nostalgic for better than the switch, among other games nintendo didn’t make.

      Which one is the real nostalgia machine? (Hint: It’s the Gameboy Color lol)

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    6 days ago

    The pricing of this is really going to fuck them.

    BotW should be like $10 by now. The fucking DLC for it still costs twice that.

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      Switch 2 is going to be a repeat of the Wii U disaster.

      “No Timmy, I’m not paying 500 dollars for Mario Kart. Don’t you already have that game?”

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        I wish it wasn’t true, because the wii u had some great games and ideas, and the switch 2 definitely will as well.

        But yeah, a HUGE portion of Nintendo’s sales come from being the budget, kid friendly option. When a parent sees a ps5, xbox and switch 2 all lined up for roughly the same price, Nintendo isn’t going to be the default choice it once was.

        And it kinda sucks because all people do is hate on the switch for its lower performance. The only way to get better performance is to put more expensive parts in leading to a higher price. They can’t win in some ways.

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      10 year old mario kart 8 is like 70 bucks or somethingwith dlc. They have lost their mind and people still pay for it.

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          Something interesting is that Steam users, (myself included) will ignore a game not on sale, I couldn’t tell you why. The only thing I can think of is that we are so used to things being “on sale” we forget that there was a reason it was priced at that amount in the first place.

          $60 $70 looks better than $60

          Factorio is an interesting example, its never on sale. It’s just the price. In fact it keeps going up in price.

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            I couldn’t tell you why.

            Because steam always has a plethora of amazing games on sale. You could never buy a full price game and still never run out of awesome things to play. And even if there is a particular game you want, it’ll almost certainly be on sale within a few months. I’d have to double check, but I don’t think I’ve paid more than 40 bucks for any single game in years.

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      The Steam Deck can run Biebian and Hannah Montana Linux fairly easily. That’s not really a selling point just another thing Nintendo isn’t bringing to the table.

      I impulse bought a deluxe Need for Speed game a few weeks ago for $6.50. I’ve already played it 65 hours. I don’t want to jump into the math of it but I reckon I would need to enjoy Mario Kart for much greater than 650 hours before I would get the same hours per dollar value NfS: Heat has brought me thanks to a Steam sale. And Mario Kart could never catch up in miles per hour.

      Just a heads up you’ll get to learn how to navigate Linux if you change your mind on the starter car. The only way I could start a new save file was by manually deleting the old one in the file system. It was a little frustrating but served as a good reminder that it is a handheld computer not just an outlet for gaming.

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      7 days ago

      Steam is clearly playing the long game with Steam Deck and Steam OS, they’re basically trying to slowly normalize portable gaming pcs. If they achieve this Nintendo will not be just facing competition from Steam Deck but from multiple devices from the likes of Asus, Lenovo, Dell (Alienware).

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      Absolutely. Nintendo has huge fanbase with most of them not caring about Nintendo ripping them off and Nintendo has some of the most highly regarded and iconic gaming IPs in the world and Nintendo has insane marketing budget behind the Switch 2 and the switch doubles as a home console.

      I love the Deck but it’s not going to outsell the Switch and I think Valve isn’t interested in pulling people away from the Switch. Valve made the Deck primarily for Steam users and that’s who they’re targeting.

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          On the Steam Deck? Possible. On Steam? I guess technically possible if you add a third party game. But actually on Steam? Nintendo can’t even give a tech demo out for free, I can’t imagine what would have to happen for Nintendo to put their games on Steam.

          You can also play Minecraft on the Steam Deck and technically you can also play Apex Legends on the Deck (if you install Windows and play through that), but all of it depends on the user being a tinkerer. But the casual gamer is not a tinkerer which means those possibilities have next to no impact on the wider market.

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            I have a feeling there will be an increase in tinkerers as the cost of staying casual continues to increase to unreasonable levels.

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      Even PS Portal sales is not that far from Deck. You know, the handheld that people said won’t sell

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    Not a Nintendo fanboy. But their own IP games are truly fun. That alone is enough incentive to buy the switch

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    6 days ago

    I don’t know what Nintendo was thinking by doing the Nintendo tax bullshit harder than ever during a time when Americans are facing such heavy financial burdens

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      These tariffs suck for sure, but America is not the center of the world : the pricing of these games is insane and looks like a poor marketing decision globally

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        I’m aware, but it’s worth noting since America is usually a big consumer country, and right now, we can’t onsume.

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      Most likely they came up with the plan while people thought Trump was not going to do the crazy stuff he kept talking about…

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        To still go through with it and have Doug Bowser give this “Do you guys not have phones?” level bullshit defense?

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          It seems these idiots do not have the emotional intelligence we try to enforce in toddlers to recognize when a mistake was done, make apologies and rectify… instead they quadruple down and keep pushing as if their idea is now even more genius than before.

          This is how we end up with Trump literally destroying the US economy while people wonder “is it outrageous stupidity or intergalactic 17 dimensional chess?”

          We have never (to my knowledge) lived in a real life, non analogy, of the Emperor has no clothes

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    6 days ago

    I love my Steam Deck but it doesn’t have Mario Kart or even anything like it

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    LMAO Nintendo buyers are not even part of this conversation. Their community is basically tied with the loyalty they have provided for years and now it’s time to cash it in

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    Sadly the trend of $80 for a digital copy of games will be copied by every major AAA studio in the following years if Nintendo succeed. The switch 1 games are not pricer than others at launch, they just never for whatever fucking reason become cheaper.

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      And then AAA studios will see their games stay on digital shelves indefinitely and pirating skyrocket and they’ll learn that they’re not nintendo and trying to be will bankrupt them.