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    Don’t worry, next time around we won’t be voting with ballots. We’ll be voting with something a lot more effective at removing Nazis from power.

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      or have a MINDER like with putins election, to make sure you vote the right candidate.

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    Are we at the point yet where we are openly called a dictatorship and humanitarian forces start stepping in…?

    We need an outside group to handle our elections because a third of our country is so fucking corrupt it’s VILE

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      Dems pretending to be Republicans so they don’t lose their jobs always, always, always works. Just ask anyone serving in a Texas/Florida swing seat.

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        theres at least 10 Dinos in the senates, practically republicans that cant beat a maga candidate.

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    According to the Pew Research Center, 69 million women who have taken their spouse’s name do not have a birth certificate matching their legal name and could find it much harder to register to vote under the bill.

    So, among other things, this is a step towards the Republican goal of denying women the vote.

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      Women of course, but also poor people and immigrants are far less likely to have all of the requisite documentation. Plus it’s an opportunity to snipe at transgender people.

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        I work with the homeless all over the country and the most common theme is that they rarely have all the paperwork to get their ID.

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          I talk to a lot of people who think voter ID requirements are no big deal, because they have always had an ID. They cannot fathom anyone living a life that doesn’t conform to their experiences.

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        Honestly i’m gonna laugh when the 2nd gen immigrant vote turns out because they all have passports to visit family.

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          Why do you think they are targeting birthright citizenship? Just gonna declare all those minorities illegal immigrants and ship them to the concentration camps in El Salvador.

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      alot of women, especially conservatives relegate thier voting to thier husbands, they vote themselves typically.

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      I’m not trying to be negative but what are the Democrats supposed to do in this situation?

      They have none of the levers of power because they were voted out of them.

      again I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m a Canadian so there may be a gap in my knowledge about things within their power

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        Well, they can show up armed, and ready to take out the fascists.

        I mean, aim going out on a limb here, but I’d think reps would have contacts with their governors already, and can activate the state’s national guard to defend against the domestic enemies…

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        The reason people are angry is because when things are reversed and Republicans “don’t have the levers of power”, they don’t let that stop them from getting their way. No, Republicans figure out a way.

        Republicans will come up with some obscure rule or law from the 1800s, or bribe/threaten Democrats in swing/conservative areas to join them, or not allowing a vote on something via underhanded means, or whatever.

        Hell, just look at Mitch McConnell denying Obama a Supreme Court seat. That was illegal. McConnell got away with it. Not only do Democrats refuse to stoop as low as Republicans to get what they want with their “when they go low, we go high” BS, but Democrats won’t even put up a fight when the Republicans are clearly in the wrong.

        That’s why so many people are saying, “Do something!” to Democrats. Because we all know that if the parties were reversed, Republicans would damn well be doing something, even if that ‘something’ is illegal or just plain morally wrong.

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          Republicans had control of the senate when Obama was denied the Supreme Court nomination — Mitch McConnell was the Senate majority leader. So, no, parties weren’t reversed in the Senate, Democrats didn’t have (all) the levers of power at that time.

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            Nope. No more excuses for Democrats.

            If the Democrats weren’t so spineless, Garland would be a Supreme Court Justice right now…

            …But then again, maybe it’s for the better. Seeing how often Garland slept on the job while he was Attorney General, Garland’s performance shows he was clearly a poor choice for either Supreme Court Justice or Attorney General in the first place.

            We’re all tired of Democrats being weak, incompetent, and useless for anything other than collecting lobbyist bribes and insider trading info. No more excuses. Do better, Democrats.

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        Republicans are worried and nervous. Kicking up a big fuss, saying that Republicans are destroying the country and unpatriotic, marching in the streets and promising to raise millions to run against anyone who votes for these unpopular bills, makes the republicans back down. We see it time and again.

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    As a trans woman who both legally changed her birth name AND took her husband’s last name when getting married:

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    I can’t WAIT for Chuck Schumer And His Democrats to do LITERALLY NOTHING to Stop this or Slow it Down in ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM!

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      “We’ve tried nothing, and we’re all out of ideas. They win this round, but we aren’t giving up, and will continue to resist all efforts to end their reign of terror. Send money.”

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        “So we took the money and did nothing with it to stop Trump. Another $5 this time will surely let us kick the football, Charlie Brown. Give us your paycheck, so we can stop Trump, unlike the last 8 years!”

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      10 DINOS are currently in the senate, 4 dinos in the house voted for the bill. alot of them never wouldve never been elected in a reddish area, if they dint vote right wing some of the times. manchin was just blatantly obvious, as was sinema because they were lightning rods to shield the rest of the Dinos from getting primaried.

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        Passed the house not the senate. The filibuster in the senate is the main hurdle for the bill. That’s what requires 60 votes meaning it’d take at least 7 votes from dems

        Dems have shot plenty of things down this term via the filibuster though the CR was a notable horrible exception. For instance, they successfully filibustered an anti-trans legislation earlier in march. There is no threat of a shutdown here if they don’t let this bill get through. It’s a tall order for it to get through. Still call your senator and tell them to vote against cloture for it

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          the 10 dinos might vote for it in the senate(we know there is at least 10 of them)

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        Theyre actually passing bills? That’s adorable that they think they are actually doing something. They havent realized that we’ve entered the era of Ruling by Executive Orders, and their jobs are only ceremonial.

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    We got married in St Lucia back in the 90s, and we’ve been trying for several years to get a copy of our marriage certificate so my wife can get her ID updated. We’ve sent them the money ($10) several times, filled out all the proper documents and followed all the rules (which have changed a few times), and then we hear nothing. After a few months, we try again. There is no option to do it online.

    At this point, we are seriously considering getting her a legal name change through the American courts. It will be more expensive, but at least it will work.

    I would advise any woman who is getting married to keep her own name, and not change it to her husband’s. Dont even hyphenate it. Changing your name is a stupid old custom anyway, I cant believe feminists didn’t go after it long ago.

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      I got married in 1976 and didn’t change my name. My mother cried when I told her. “People will think your children are illegitimate!” At work I had to go to HR and explain, they acted like I had lost my mind.

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      Is going down to the courthouse and getting married again not an option? Not that you should have to do that, just curious.

      Edit: I mean your local courthouse so you don’t have to deal with this anymore.

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          The Marriage License is held in St Lucia, a Caribbean island nation. While I would love to go down there to get it in person, I don’t have the budget nor the time to do that right now.

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            You can just go to your local courthouse and say “we would like to be married” and they will issue a valid US marriage certificate you can then send on to Uncle Sam. No beed to get St. Lucia involved at all. Legally you’ll be married on that date, but you don’t have to change your anniversary or anything.

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              Valid. That’s definitely a potential option. We’d have to find out if there are any legal downsides to rejecting 30+ years of legal marriage. Does a long marriage have any advantages over a new marriage?

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        We’ve considered that, but we are already legally married, I’m not even sure you can get legally married a second time, even to you current spouse.

        I suppose we could roll the dice and get a divorce first, and see if either one of us bails before the re-marriage.

        Just kidding, heh-heh…kind of…

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      There’s no agency to ride to the rescue. It’s just the government and We The People, for better or worse.

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      I’m sure that Schumer and Jefferies will be looking for a nice bipartisanship solution to deny women the right to vote here.

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      Maybe saint Luigi will visit us.

      I don’t think we’re going to see any lasting improvements unless the Republicans are forcibly removed from power.

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          Most of the Dems are fucking useless. The rest range into acquiescent. We have to stop this dichotomy. Dems had control and they couldn’t even prevent Trump from running again, in spite of J6. They couldn’t even stop deep throating Natanyahu long enough to beat him.

          The Dems aren’t going to save us and will have to be removed also.

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      This is what I find frustrating with Americans … their country is literally burning down and not enough of them can be bothered to do anything about it.

      They believe they can wait until the last possible minute of failure and like some Hollywood movie, they’ll save everything at the last possible moment when things are at their darkest and save everything.

      It isn’t a Hollywood movie … if no one does anything now or soon … everything will be lost and no one will save it at the last moment

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        This is what I find frustrating with Americans … their country is literally burning down and not enough of them can be bothered to do anything about it.

        I got yelled down by a Canadian here on Lemmy yesterday (in much less kind language) that my protesting here in the USA is useless.

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          Because protesting in the way we typically do it IS useless. We need general strikes, road blockages, storming government buildings and occupying them, things that actually affect people.

          Yelling at a building and inconveniencing absolutely no one accomplishes nothing. The media downplays or ignores, like the April 5th protest, anything that doesn’t affect money.

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            The Catch-22 to that is it gives Trump and the GOP the excuse to declare martial law, as they’re already itching to do, hugely extending the power of their autocracy.

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              You’re mistaken if you believe they need a non-fabricated reason. The Reichstag will burn on schedule.

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              I believe that they’re deliberately provoking dissenters into the slightest bit of violent action so that they can do exactly that.

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            Americans have been raised on a white washed version of the Civil Rights Movement that deliberately leaves out the tactics that actually enabled the Civil Rights Movement to succeed.

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          Canadian here. Prove all us naysayers wrong! (I’m pessimistic on America’s future but I’m willing to believe there’s a chance for change)

          Keep going, Apr 19th, every day of action after, escalate until the country is yours again, instead of just for the billionaires, by the billionaires. Then let’s talk.

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            And in the meantime all you people will just bitch and moan about Americans but do nothing to help but that bitching and that moaning. What are you trying to prove? That you’ve never helped anyone before? Or you’re not willing to now? I don’t think this sounds as good as you all think.

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              We’re very helpfully and politely reminding you that we’re your friends who spend money at your attractions and your best customers that bought your stuff, by refusing to travel and buy American for now. The booking level drops and car travel drops of 70% shows Canadians banding together and acting en masse. I am out protesting too with my fellow Canadian in front of Tesla, in front of consulates and embassies, in front of city and provincial legislative buildings, and we’re poised to elect someone taking a strong but measured response against Trump rather than MAGA-mini.

              Your president is hurting us as Canadians, and your president is hurting you as Americans. This requires action on both our parts, but on different levels since this is an American problem. It seems like the first challenge is getting the public at large to acknowledge that this is a problem. I think the rallies across the nation are a good first step. Keep going and the next steps to action will come as you organize. (Perhaps a general strike?)

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                Canadians talk a lot of shit for people who were about to elect a crazy right wing populist in a landslide and only changed their minds because our crazy right wing populist threatened annexation.

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                  I have to give Trump and Musk props for that, showing the rest of the world how much a right-wing populist fascist government can turn their country into a clown-show.

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          I’m Canadian and I whole heartedly support you protesting … my complaint is that not enough of you are doing it … your entire country should be marching in the streets and shutting everything down

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            I’m Canadian and I whole heartedly support you protesting

            I’m American and I whole heartedly support Canada is a sovereign nation and the USA needs to respect that. That was the idea of my most recent protest sign the idea of “Hands off Canada!”. At the last demonstration I saw two others also supporting Canada, but really there is just so much to protest that the authoritarians are doing to our country.

            my complaint is that not enough of you are doing it

            I agree with you on that.

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        Lots of people in power are fighting the Trump admin, in courtrooms and filings from individuals and state attorneys and in state congresses.

        But you rarely hear about any of that because paperwork is boring.

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        what happened after the election is met with apathy and indifference, even from persecuted groups. while i was on reddit before banned, some people reported they met others that said “how does this affect me now, or i dint know he was running, or i dint bother voting”

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        Your observation is valid. It seems people don’t like it but that is the reality. We are doing nothing to stop any of this. Peaceful protests are going to be ignored. People are just too comfortable in their lives to make any sort of sacrifice. Most people are up to their ears in debt. Most do not own that house, the car or the boat and are in debt beyond that. It’s become the norm to live way beyond your actual means. Living pay check to pay check means losing everything you have. No one wants to do that. By the time we reach that point, I’m pretty sure there will definitely be nothing we can do.

        It’s been so obvious for many years that Republicans are not playing by the rules. The only counter is to also not play by the rules. Being polite and orderly when the country has already been stolen by Republicans in Congress, the White House and validated by the ones in the Supreme Court… serves no one but those same Republicans.

        I’m for skipping over the useless waste of time. I mourn the loss of the US. It wasn’t perfect, far from it, but we had periods of progress towards a better future. Now, the game is rigged and is becoming even more so in favor of the Republican fascists. They control all the legal avenues and are corrupting them. How is it ever going to be possible to politely wrest power from them when the entire democratic process is rigged? The solution as I see it is for the blue states to leave the union. The red states are weaker in every way and where most of this poison comes from. I think joining Canada actually does make sense even if it was proposed partly in jest.

        If we do this slowly, we become ever weaker as the fascist state gets stronger. Eliminate our rights, eliminating our voices and literally eliminating people. People are just not facing the reality of this situation. There is no legal recourse when the law backs anything the Republicans do and declares the Republican in the White House to be above the law.

        Our time to prevent any of this happening has passed. People collectively shrugged and let the fascist state win. I just don’t see how we are going to ever get back to how things were since people are not taking this seriously. If they were, we would already have beheaded the king and his enablers.

        Resist. Secede.

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        I’ve given up. They put more effort in to banning you for telling them signs won’t cut it this time than they do saving their country. Fucking pathetic.

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      Technically, states get the final say in running elections, but I’m sure at least a few will fold.

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    While I consider it evil to exclude legal voters from voting, I cannot wrap my head around the point that about 9% of American citizens cannot prove their citizenship. At least the tax office should know about them, shouldn’t they? Or are they “invisible” to the system to avoid getting taxed?

    And that they cannot match a person to a birth certificate just because that person got married is such a colossal bureaucratic failure that it is hard to believe. Don’t they record marriages anywhere?

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      most of them likely dont have thier birth certificate, updated passports, or thier marriage certificate on hand. its actually quite a hassle to get a passport, even more for naturalized citenzenship, its the point that gop knows, its inconvience as hell if you have FT job. you also need valid proof of to even get your citizenship or passport.

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      Transgender people have that exact problem right now, even with passports. They effectively cannot prove they are a citizen even with a birth certificate because of Trump’s executive orders.

      I only have an enhanced NY state driver’s license. I don’t have Real ID or even a passport. While I’m male and identify as male, I don’t have my birth certificate. If they require something like Real ID, passport, or birth certificate the likelihood of me voting pretty much becomes nil. I don’t drive, rely on public transportation, and would have to go to a county office and hope I can give them the right information to get a copy of my birth certificate.

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        Why don’t you have a birth certificate? That is something I don’t understand. There must be some sort of records?

        In my country, every citizen has a mandatory federal identity card from the age of 16, and many have a passport, too, and our driving licences are at about the same level of security as the ID card. Not being able to establish an identity is a completely foreign concept to me.

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          it gets lost, or if you move out, you would have to apply to get a real copy of it, and you have to schedule for appointments and you must show valid proof before even get any of these identifications. Driver license/ID dont count as proof apparently,. often times its booked so in advanced much you might not be able to get appts weeks to months later depending on where you are. Oh and theres no ONLINE application where you just apply and submit, or schedule, it must be inperson. its intentional, and the govt havnt tried to solve this issue, just like how our taxes are complicated on purpose.

          also different agencies for each type of ID. citizenship/naturalized, passport, birth certificate,etc

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    The bill would create criminal penalties for election officials who register any noncitizens, even if they did so by mistake

    Creating a job that no sane person would ever want to take. The people who do take the job will be overworked, since their office will always be understaffed, and they will tend to err on the side of caution and deny registration as the default.

    How about also creating criminal penalties for election officials who refuse to register any citizen, even if they did so by mistake? /s

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      I don’t think noncitizens were evee eligible to vote to begin with, making that whole section completely pointless.