No… the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us
The big ban theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.
Misogynistic pure shit.
No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There’s a very clear difference.
I watched one random episode of BBT after it was recommended to me by a few people. That one episode was enough for me to decide that I never want to see that show again, and also that I should disregard all recommendations from the people who said I should watch it.
The laugh track alone is enough evidence
I watched a scene where someone posted it without the laugh track and it was super cringey. Semi-related note… Taking the laugh track out of BBT ruins it, but taking Garfield out of Garfield comics takes it to a new level, see here -> https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/
Taking the laugh track out of anything ruins it. You are replacing laughter with dead air.
You might like the Heathcliffe without Heathcliffe posts right here on Lemmy https://lemmy.world/c/heathcliff
If anyone is wondering, it’s totally okay to like both.
I would say they’re like apples and oranges but they’re more like apples and hand grenades. They only vaguely resemble each other and I love them both.
The Brits try not to mix as much drama into their comedy. I appreciate that. BBT waxes pretentious then wains drama, I like it most when it’s in the middle.
All that said, I’ve seen the entirety of BBT maybe one and a half times, I’ve watched ITC probably a dozen times.
Okay.
If I had to rate the IT crowd out of ten, I’d give it 01189998819991197253
… 3
I’ll just put all the fire together
A very good metaphor for IT support
big bang theory is about what dumb people think smart people are like.
apologies for the pixels, I stole it from reddit
bbt is blackface
Reddit ass comment
Not true. Blackface can be funny.
Anyone down voting you never saw tropic thunder or did and have no sense of humor, probably think big bang theory is banging.
It’s just a dude dressed up like a dude, pretending to be another due.
I wouldn’t say dumb people. It’s a caricature, much like Dennis the Menace is a caricature of small children in a quiet, suburban neighborhood. Only Big Bang Theory wasn’t based on an existing comic. So more like Friends being an unrealistic caricature of a late-20’s/early-30’s group of people living n NYC.
Entertainment doesn’t always have to be authentic.
Yes, it’s a horrible caricature, Henry Cavill is basically the template for most geeks these days.
Big bang theory is about nerds.
Also, BBT stayed entertaining for the most part throughout the 8 or so seasons it was on. IT started great and then dropped to “meh”.
How can you stay entertaining when you were never entertaining in the first place?
I’ve always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.
I think that’s right but at the same time I think you’re not doing it justice by implying that’s all it is.
British humour is infinitely funnier than the laugh track pandering American sitcoms.
Most humor is funnier than a laugh track sitcom. But humor being regional is … an interesting phenomenon if nothing else. Like yea I enjoyed the hell out of Monty Python as a kid and even now. But ill take the office from Scranton ober the og any day of the week. But I also wouldnt expect peeps from across the pond to feel that way.
Is their anything from that late 90s era early 00s British tv had to compare the chapelle show? Honestly curious, I only have so much knowledge of British humor.
I don’t think laugh track is inherently bad.
But I watched the Big Bang Theory for like the first 3 years, and it just kept devolving into shittier and simpler humour, and like really begging for the laughs with the puns, whereas in Britain it’s genuinely considered somewhat important to keep it organic.
Like unfiltered BBC panel shows are just so much more hilarious than an episode of “hey come share laughs over archaic and super over-blown stereotypes”.
Whatever cheap shit they’ve made over at the BBC is usually funnier than overproduced hyper-supervised multi-writer numbers-pleasing BS. I know that’s subjective, and I won’t die on a hill of “who’s the funniest”, because that’s subjective, but that’s my opinion on it.
The Office would like to have a word with you.
Some particular shows are better as Americans versions, I’ll not deny that.
I haven’t watched either of the Offices, but I have watched the entire American “Shameless” and that was glorious and fitting. The British version I glanced at was really meh. And whilst British comedy in general might be better, good comedy in a bad show is less valuable than mediocre comedy in a good show.
It’s like good food. Good side dishes won’t completely cover for a bad main dish, but if the main dish is really moorish, you won’t care about the side dishes being so-and-so.
Edit also do you like to think your username is pronounced “rhee-ri”, or “rhow-eh-ri”. People ask me about the pronunciation of mine sometimes and just made me question how you think yours…?
Fair point.
do you like to think your username is pronounced “rhee-ri”, or “rhow-eh-reh”. People ask me about the pronunciation of mine sometimes and just made me question how you think yours…?
It’s “Rory,” but I’d never thought it could be pronounced any other way until now. Lol.
I’d imagine yours is pronounced: “Dah-suse”?
“Rory"
Yeah okay that’s a simpler way of writing the latter way, then way I thought it probably would be.
Dah-sus is more or less how I imagined it originally yes. Like the “da” from “da man” as in “the” and the “sus” not from the phenomena a few years ago where everything was “sus”, but from the Finnish word for wolf, “susi”.
I know it’s cringe but it was like 2002 when I came up with it.
And I’ve had friends go “deyh-sus” “deissus”, sort of, and I’m comfortable with it, but it’s not like how I meant it.
Rory… Amy relation? (Pun intended.) (so bad-ass btw)
Love Doctor Who, love Rory, but no. No relation. It’s just a name. Boring, but the truth.
Because, similar to blackface in its time, people love to point and laugh at exaggerated caricatures of something different from themselves.
And CBS airs lowest common denominator garbage that the masses devour.
The term you’re looking for is minstrel shows https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minstrel_show
BBT is a minstrel show to humiliate smart people, anti intelligence sentiment is high in America
I’ll alway remember the time I was hanging out with my GF at her parents house and she mentioned that she was going to play D&D later and her moms boomer-ass friend just immediatly started cackling about how “it’s just like big bang theory!!”.
There was no joke or anything just “oh, yea I’m going over to xxxx’s house to play D&D later”. That was enough for me to never bother with that show.
BBT is a bad show, but that’s not a good reason not to watch it, that’s just a dumb person who can only relate to reality through media references.
Just to be clear I’m not saying to watch it, but that a stupid person liking something isn’t a reason to reject the thing…
but that a stupid person liking something isn’t a reason to reject the thing
Historically I’ve found that to be a very good indicator that I’m not going to like something. I’ve learned to trust my gut and I’ve seen enough clips of it since then to know my gut was right.
Correlation vs causation.
Yes, big bang is dumb, but just to pull a famous example Paul Ryan likes Rage against the Machine, sometimes people can feel a beat even if they can’t hear the lyrics.
Call it whatever you want I’m not changing my opinion. There’s plenty of shit that people I actually respect like and have recommended to me for me to watch. I don’t need to waste my time on slop that was created for morons.
I get you, but as someone who just started with the litrpg genre because i avoided it due to the people who liked it, I’m just saying that sometimes you may be missing something you love because most of the people who like it are dumb and most of the genre is garbage.
I’m not sure why they were so weirdly hostile and yet kept engaging when they clearly didn’t want to have a conversation about it.
In any case, I agree. Idiots are all over the place and like a lot of different things. Unless you only want to consume works that use obtuse language to scare away dumbos, you’ll have to reconcile with that fact. That is, of course, assuming the person doesn’t find certain forms of idiocy agreeable.
A older person has heard of DnD because of a sitcom and laughed when they meet someone who plays? And thats why youll never watch the show? I finally gave dnd a chance after freaks and geeks. Which for me was after almost two decades of playing magic.
Dont get me wrong, ive seen a few episodes of big bang and yea nothing you need to watch. But seems an odd reason to write it off if you like sitcoms … which the more I think about it a lot of sitcoms were nerd comedy. Best dam line out of friedns was alwazy “Ill prove it like a therom!!” And Frazier… And while never as cool as Homer, Lisa was always miles above Bart…
Sorry most of that was not actually in response to your comment. Hope the campaign is going/went well!
A older person has heard of DnD because of a sitcom and laughed when they meet someone who plays? And thats why youll never watch the show?
I guess you had to be there. This was not a “laughing with you” situation, and it indicated to me that the show was mostly just making fun of nerdy people so I wouldn’t enjoy it. That was enough for me. I’ve seen enough clips of it since then to know I was right.
I mean people are allowed to like different things. There is no gatekeeping to be done on something as subjective humor
no, but i can gatekeep it for its misogynistic and abelist rhetoric, or its racist depictions, or having musk in an episode.
expressing dislike is not gatekeeping though…?
or am i gatekeeping gatekeeping now?
But yes, I haven’t watch BBT but IT is better.
No explanation necessary:
If he’s low masking, how did he just have a chat about that ludicrous display last night?
This changes my perspective on the entire show… I’m going to have to watch it again for the 152nd time with this in mind now.
Id be tempted to swap jen and roy tbh
I might require some explanation.
Autism.
Masking is a strategy used by some autistic people, consciously or unconsciously, to appear non-autistic. While this strategy can help them get by at school, work and in social situations, it can have a devastating impact on mental health, sense of self and access to an autism diagnosis
Oh shit, I’m a high masker.
Getting through the day be like:
Subject: Fire. “Dear Sir stroke Madam, I am writing to inform you of a fire which has broken out at the premises of…” No, that’s too formal. “Dear Sir stroke Madam. Fire, exclamation mark. Fire, exclamation mark. Help me, exclamation mark. 123 Carrendon Road. Looking forward to hearing from you. All the best, Maurice Moss.”
Mid AF over here.
I love this so much.
This image?
The show?
“Yes!” 💯
The Big Bang Theory was frustratingly bad.
Saw a critic call it, “Nerd blackface”
IT crowd is about nerds for nerds. Big Bang theory is about nerds for non nerds. “Nerd blackface” is more succinct though.
Blackface is a bit more complicated and disturbing than “pretending to be like a black person for comic effect.” I don’t think it’s appropriate to compare it to to depictions of nerd culture.
It’s what stupid people think smart people sound like. I’ve never been able to watch it, but I remember hearing Sheldon brag about Ubuntu being his favorite Linux distribution? Like, can you imagine someone saying that in a room of Linux nerds?
It’s stupid and disrespectful to geeky people, but it’s not perpetuating harmful and violent narratives.
brag about Ubuntu being his favorite Linux distribution we? Like, can you imagine someone saying that in a room of Linux nerds?
H-hey!
Amazing
Omfg, that describes it adequately.
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I saw some clips on YT where they removed the laugh track.
It’s really hard to find the show funny when they take out the bit where it tells you when to laugh.
I hate laugh tracks.
I watched and enjoyed TBBT, but I don’t rewatch it. I saw one of these videos with the laugh track removed and was honestly surprised at how awkward the show was without it. It didn’t change the fact that I liked it when I watched it though.
It’s mostly awkward because suddenly you have long times of silence normally occupied by the laugh track. If it was intended to be without a laugh track there wouldn’t be awkward silence.
Yeah, I’ve wondered what it’d be like if someone did one of those laugh track removal experiments, but re-edited to remove the quiet parts
Fun fact. That show was filmed in front of a studio audience.
Although I don’t know if they augmented the audience with canned laughter in post.
Same with Friends and most shows with laugh tracks
I’ve seen that. Cringeworthy.
It got so popular, had occasional Star Trek references, even a cameo by Leonard Nimoy, and I still couldn’t get myself to enjoy it. It’s such a a shame.
My grandparents used to watch it. I think it had one (1) funny moment I saw in all the show’s run that I caught when living with them - when Neil DeGrasse Tyson calls up Bill Nye and says “I hear you’ve been talking shit about me”, and Nye immediately hangs up the phone in abject terror.
Their cameos in SGA were funnier. “Way to make all the kiddies cry neil, feel like a big man??”
I watched a lot of it back in the day and by like season 10 (I have no clue how long it ran) I realized it was super boring and bad. There would be jokes as lame as “dude owns a Nintendo 64”. That was the entirety of the joke.
Also there is a long running arc about a main character who is physically incapable of talking to women unless he is intoxicated (aka alcohol).
At some point the “humour” was just pop culture references.
is this not comedy gold?!
I like to say that Big Bang Theory was a stupid show about smart people, and Arrested Development was a smart show about stupid people.
In the beginning it was kinda funny. But it went downhill pretty fast, got super cringe regarding the guys trying to get girlfriends, then the creepiest one of the lot gets one. Just ugh.
Yes, it’s the “Friends” of it’s era - the comedy is in the laugh-track, I mean studio audience.
watched it, it was okey lol. don’t put too much thinking in it
IT Crowd S02E01 is probably the funniest episode of any sitcom I’ve seen
How did they steal your wheelchair?
Mournfully: “I don’t knooooow”
Cracks me up every time
“I’m disabled”
The situation just keeps getting more and more ridiculous and amazing
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The second episode of season 2 has the greatest introduction to a new character ever. You meet Matt Berry at his most Matt Berryist!
FAAAAAAAAAAAATHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!
Edit: Here’s the scene for anyone who hasn’t seen it or just wants to enjoy it again, slight spoilers but it won’t ruin the first season.
SPEAK, PRIEST
Just moments after getting in a slap fight with the priest.
The little theme tune he hums as he sprints towards the coffin is great.
That shit lives in my head rent free and I ain’t even mad about it
When ever I think of that show the scenes that come to mind are Matt Berry’s introduction, moss rambling about Richmond not being in his room, he’s supposed to be in his room, why isn’t he in his room!? and the line " My thighs are as red as fire truck from here to here, with an undershot of his groin and Roy’s face just staring, IT crowd was a masterpiece of comedy.
“A gay musical… called ‘Gay’. That’s quite gay.”
“Willys, willys, I like willys!”
“It’s I LOVE willys”
“I’m disabled.”
What kind of disabled?
Leg disabled
Absolutely. My favourite of the IT crowd.
Aside from all the hilarity inbetween, the set ups to the last few gags are ridiculous and the payoff is brilliant.
Jen, talking to Roy, figuring out why on earth he’s in that wheelchair only to turn around in desperate need of a drink, to see Moss politely ready to serve her at the bar…
“Willys, willys, I like willys” “I love willys…” “What?” “It’s I LOVE WILLYS!” “—Sir, would you keep it down!?”
My favourite too, mate. So bloody good.
That episode is a masterpiece
