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    I don’t understand these people at all. If I had 10 million dollars I’d be living the high life in a tropical country banging hookers left and right. Why is someone worth 600 billion so interested in something so boring and shitty as politics? Does he have no actual interests?

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      That’s the thing: if you or I got 10mil we’d live it up and not worry about accumulating more wealth. Beyond that it’s just collecting for collecting’s sake. Clearly, when you’re the richest man on earth, the only way to collect more (of anything) is to collect power by buying the president.

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        Obviously their hobby is collecting more, and since they don’t actually do any work to collect more - they just get to play the game, they are happy to keep.on doing it

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        Maybe at some point money is no longer enough. Or, maybe when one gets so much money, they start thinking they are better than the others and need to rule them to make the whole world better?

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          I actually think it’s pretty simple and not even that sinister, although I do think you need to have certain undesirable, in my opinion, character traits.

          I’ll preface this by stating I know nothing about this stuff, I’m a software developer.

          These people, for the most part, come from money so I doubt that’s ever the goal. Like I said it’s power. To your other point about thinking they’re better than us, I think they do and mainly because when you get this much wealth and power you’re surrounded by yes men.

          So take someone like Harvey Weinstein; people don’t go from 0-100 in the crazy shit to do scale. But imagine you’re surrounded by yes men, so you do something at level 3 on the weirdness/creepy scale and nobody challenges you and it becomes the new baseline. Now you escalate to something at level 7 on the scale and so this goes unchallenged and the new baseline. After a while you get people doing and getting away with the craziest shit.

          I think this applies to people like Elon Musk, Russel Brand, Trump, and many other folk who seek out power or an audience.

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          Inevitably, they all channel Dr. Horrible.

          The world’s a mess and I just… need to rule it.

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    This dork wants to be darth vader, and it kills him that it isn’t working. Instead of becoming a cooler person and being good to people, which might make him cool, he does what weak people do and does increasingly horrible things.

    It’s like he thinks “if you can’t be strong, be weak, louder”. He needs to go the other way.

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    Literally the richest man in the world, who’s now got the President of one of the richest countries in the world with the strongest military, in his pocket. Doing a Nazi salute twice on a national stage with very likely no repercussions whatsoever. Not to mention all the other billionaires at the inauguration. This is truly a cursed timeline.

    That Doomsday clock must be very close to midnight by now

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        In most countries, the KKK would be considered a terrorist organization. Here in the US, they’re a “political group.”

        The call has been coming from inside the house for over a century.

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        Some things make execution the public’s job. And I’m tied of pretending otherwise.

        I should be able to post a video of myself killing Nick Fuentes, for example, and receive nothing but favorable responses.

        I don’t understand the argument when someone is a total negative in every way, with absolutely zero redeeming characteristics.

        I am not typically a violent person, but with someone out there causing actual harm to people, promoting more harm, with a completely objective negative amount of humanity and worth, there is definitely a line where the cost of keeping them alive outweighs every single good thing they’ve ever (and will ever) do.

        The line for this is really murky down here in peasant world, but the leaders should be the absolute peak of humanity.

        And when their death provides an amazing benefit as well, then I say bring on the Luigis. I don’t say that lightly either. This isn’t a “kill everyone meeting this criteria” kinda thing. This is very specific.

        The ones not quite worth messing still deserve the next worst punishment forever. And there are plenty of groups that fit into this. Nazis is the obvious one. That specifically should be a crime by itself, but that argument has issues too, but that’s just my opinion until I hear a better one.

        You don’t deserve to participate in society just for being born. You deserve it by being a contributor to it. All you deserve for being born is a fair chance not to be evil. The price for crossing that line should be everything.

        I realize the line of thinking is dangerously close to theirs. But it isn’t based on arbitrary issues like beliefs or race. It’s just being a decent person. That line should be pretty clear and obvious.

        Nobody should be intentionally harmful to anyone- except for evil people. I don’t think we’ll ever evolve to that point though. Not inside of at digit number of years at the very least.

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      Just gonna buy some of those goggles those dudes wore wearing at the Trinity tests, grab some popcorn, and watch the world burn.

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    Weird how the ADL is nowhere to be found when someone does a Nazi salute on a national stage. I guess it’s more necessary to dunk on anti-genocide Jews instead.

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    So, if Space Channel 5 Part 2 is any indicator of reality, we can take control of the President from Elon Musk by having Lady Gaga copy Elon’s moves perfectly in a dance battle. We can then proceed to use Starlink to fire a laser back at Elon by channeling the power of the 83 million or so people watching this and dancing along into one funkified force, saving the world once and for all, though on occasion we may need Lady Gaga to race in a futuristic vehicle with Sonic in a few racing games…

    Look it’s less ridiculous than the shit hat’s actually going on, so I think it’s worth a shot.

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    I’m looking at r/Conservative, Gab, and other far-right outlets to see what is happening with the incoming administration, and all I can say is what the actual fuck

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      What’s it like in those outlets? I don’t have the courage to go in there myself, those idiots make me feel angry and sad.

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      Absolutely incredible to see the ADL defending overt Nazism. I guess these days the only way you can be antisemitic is to oppose genocide.

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      Coworker keeps tuning into some inauguration party (has real “house party where the parents are gone” energy) and the lady Waters was talking to was just talking about the “patriotism” and how democrats lost track of the normal, reasonable people because of tampons in the boys room and men playing women’s sports. SSDD.

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    My theory: a test to see how easily their media apparatus can explain this away or ignore it entirely. Effectively shaping reality in realtime.

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      I think they’re going to pull a strategy of just doing everything so fast that people won’t have time to react properly to anything before the next, worse things comes along. Trump virtually admitting that Musk interfered with voting machines yesterday, Nazi Salute today, 200+ executive orders dropping tomorrow. Sort of like a Gish gallop of Nazism.

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          He’s quoted as saying that a) musk in some way interfered with voting machines in PA to stuff the ballots and b)that he (ie trump) wouldn’t be president if the election had not been rigged. Cba to find the link because I don’t like watching footage of trump saying words.

          Edit: here’s a Newsweek bit about it https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-elon-musk-voting-machine-2017657

          Not exactly difficult to dig up

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            It’s a little more nuanced than that, but it does heavily imply that Elon Musk had some kind of insider knowledge on how the voting machines worked (which, as a private citizen with no connection to the manufacturer of the product, he should not have access to) and Trump credits him as the reason he won the state in a landslide… Highly, highly suspicious phrasing. It could be that Trump is just giving Musk credit for his knowledge of tech in general, but given Trump’s known history of attempting to influence the outcome of elections through nefarious means, I wouldn’t put it past him to have actually done something. Especially something like using the resources of the richest man on the planet to get what he wants.

            Of course, spineless Dems will never challenge him on this. I expect him to fully get away with it, like he does everything.

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              Combine this with ‘you don’t even have to vote’ Would love to see some journalist digging into this.

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    I’m calling it. In 2 months he will be proudly wearing a toothbrush mustache. And the headlines will say “Musk is brining back Charlie Chaplin’s mustache”.

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    Doesn’t surprise me that he is a Nazi. Just surprised that he can pull this off so openly.

    Have we learnt nothing?

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    Did he actually or is this just a lucky still of a movement?

    Ah yeah saw the video now, pretty clear.

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      There is video. He did it more than once. Either it’s so ingrained his muscle memory that he just moves like a Nazi salute, or he did it with intentionality. Both say he’s a Nazi

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        Twice in less than 6 seconds. Like, I really wanted to believe it wasn’t that clear.

        It’s so fucking clear.

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        Looked to forced and awkward to be muscle memory. Looks more like a 14 y/o boy who knows he’s doing something he shouldn’t but he wants to look cool n badass in front of his friends.

        Source: I knew a few kids who did just that.

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        It’s the same shit they always do where it’s obvious what it is but they just make it just different enough that they can claim it’s a misunderstanding while dogwhistling to their Nazi supporters.

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          I don’t think he’ll convince many of us who are not already Nazis that this was misunderstood. What the fuck else could it be? And this is a guy who has become more and more explicitly and proudly Nazi in the months leading up to the election. This is him celebrating the Nazi win.

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      It was very much deliberate, it’s hard to explain away but of course most of America will just laugh it off while the leopards get ready to eat their faces.

      I’m just waiting for the Maga idiots to make this their official gesture now, like the whole ear bandaid shit.